Comments on: God http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/ My mind doesn't wander, I...Look, a butterfly! Mon, 08 Sep 2008 08:17:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Todd Helmkamp http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1305 Todd Helmkamp Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:14:53 +0000 http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1305 @joe: Flavius Josephus was a Jewish, Romanized historian. Which works of his influenced you in this? Philo of Alexandria tried to create a fusion of Hellenistic Stoic Philosophy and Judaism. Although he spoke of the divine principle of "Logos", he certainly wasn't talking about Christ. What did you find of value in his works? @joe:

Flavius Josephus was a Jewish, Romanized historian. Which works of his influenced you in this?

Philo of Alexandria tried to create a fusion of Hellenistic Stoic Philosophy and Judaism. Although he spoke of the divine principle of “Logos”, he certainly wasn’t talking about Christ. What did you find of value in his works?

]]> By: joe http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1298 joe Sat, 08 Sep 2007 20:11:49 +0000 http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1298 Actually, I have yet to read Simply Christian. It is a consolidation of some of his larger works, i.e. Jesus and the People of God, Jesus and the Kingdom of God and Jesus and the Victory of God. I have read the larger works (well, I am in the middle of Jesus and the Victory of God, from the library), but I have not yet read Simply Christian (except for the last chapter, in the bookstore. I'm always sneaking a peak at the end of the book!). These ideas are actually being pulled from a number of sources, which include, first and foremost, the Bible, NT Wright's <i>Jesus and the Kingdom of God</i>, the first half of <i>Origin of the Christian Religion</i> (I haven't read the second half...it's HUGE!!!!), some historical texts, including stuff by both Flavius Josephus and Philo of Alexandria, Randy Alcorn's <i>Heaven</i>, and a myriad of other books I have read over the last two years. What I am writing in these posts is a consolidation of pages upon pages of notes that I have been making for some time. It would fill a book if I included every last bit of the thinking that the notes represent. So, I have been going over the notes and consolidating. I certainly don't agree with all of NT Wright's conclusions. No single person or theologian or scholar has a corner on the entire truth. We all see in a mirror dimly. Actually, I have yet to read Simply Christian. It is a consolidation of some of his larger works, i.e. Jesus and the People of God, Jesus and the Kingdom of God and Jesus and the Victory of God. I have read the larger works (well, I am in the middle of Jesus and the Victory of God, from the library), but I have not yet read Simply Christian (except for the last chapter, in the bookstore. I’m always sneaking a peak at the end of the book!).

These ideas are actually being pulled from a number of sources, which include, first and foremost, the Bible, NT Wright’s Jesus and the Kingdom of God, the first half of Origin of the Christian Religion (I haven’t read the second half…it’s HUGE!!!!), some historical texts, including stuff by both Flavius Josephus and Philo of Alexandria, Randy Alcorn’s Heaven, and a myriad of other books I have read over the last two years.

What I am writing in these posts is a consolidation of pages upon pages of notes that I have been making for some time. It would fill a book if I included every last bit of the thinking that the notes represent. So, I have been going over the notes and consolidating.

I certainly don’t agree with all of NT Wright’s conclusions. No single person or theologian or scholar has a corner on the entire truth. We all see in a mirror dimly.

]]> By: todd http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1297 todd Sat, 08 Sep 2007 18:36:01 +0000 http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1297 Everyone needs to realize that these ideas are being pulled directly from a book called "Simply Christian" by N.T. Wright. The reasoning that is being laid out here is from Chapter Three entitled Made for Each Other. N.T. Wright is a brilliant and very well written theologian from Great Britain, but he has completely walked away from normal exegetical principles in intrepreting Paul. Some of his stuff is great, but some is very dangerous. I've read most of his works excpet for his massive Origin of the Christian Religion. I would encourage you to read the book for yourself and see if you agree. I would also encourage you to read the articles on "The New Perspective on Paul" from <a href="http://www.monergism.com/directory/link_category/New-Perspective/" rel="nofollow">monergism.com</a>. Use caution when delving into these areas, I beg of you. Everyone needs to realize that these ideas are being pulled directly from a book called “Simply Christian” by N.T. Wright. The reasoning that is being laid out here is from Chapter Three entitled Made for Each Other. N.T. Wright is a brilliant and very well written theologian from Great Britain, but he has completely walked away from normal exegetical principles in intrepreting Paul. Some of his stuff is great, but some is very dangerous. I’ve read most of his works excpet for his massive Origin of the Christian Religion. I would encourage you to read the book for yourself and see if you agree. I would also encourage you to read the articles on “The New Perspective on Paul” from monergism.com. Use caution when delving into these areas, I beg of you.

]]> By: arzell http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1290 arzell Thu, 06 Sep 2007 01:33:11 +0000 http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1290 this certainly looks to be a foundational beginning to your world view. You have yet to say anything really questionable. this certainly looks to be a foundational beginning to your world view. You have yet to say anything really questionable.

]]> By: joe http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1269 joe Wed, 05 Sep 2007 17:15:25 +0000 http://www.jeremiahotis.com/quiet-thoughts/god/#comment-1269 Nathan, I appreciate that, it might help give a better understanding of where I've been coming from all along. However, I am really condensing and making some pretty big logic jumps in places (for the sake of space), and if the logic doesn't flow or things don't add up between posts, please ask! I may have misspoken, or made too big of jumps. Nathan,

I appreciate that, it might help give a better understanding of where I’ve been coming from all along.

However, I am really condensing and making some pretty big logic jumps in places (for the sake of space), and if the logic doesn’t flow or things don’t add up between posts, please ask! I may have misspoken, or made too big of jumps.

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